WEBVTT NOTE duration:"00:25:12" NOTE recognizability:0.840 NOTE language:en-us NOTE Confidence: 0.703252166666667 00:00:02.370 --> 00:00:03.339 911 What's now NOTE Confidence: 0.68039163 00:00:03.510 --> 00:00:04.926 a special report from NOTE Confidence: 0.68039163 00:00:04.926 --> 00:00:06.340 Carol Levin investigates. NOTE Confidence: 0.740838949230769 00:00:06.630 --> 00:00:08.160 Tell me anything that you can NOTE Confidence: 0.740838949230769 00:00:08.160 --> 00:00:09.899 about the party that shooting I am NOTE Confidence: 0.789430721666667 00:00:10.810 --> 00:00:13.636 a mass shooting exposes fatal flaws. NOTE Confidence: 0.884029951666667 00:00:13.670 --> 00:00:15.392 I had to tell my kids that NOTE Confidence: 0.884029951666667 00:00:15.392 --> 00:00:16.959 Mommy is not coming home. NOTE Confidence: 0.884029951666667 00:00:17.440 --> 00:00:18.970 Lack of accountability. NOTE Confidence: 0.709894021428571 00:00:18.970 --> 00:00:20.664 Now we got the finger point game NOTE Confidence: 0.709894021428571 00:00:20.670 --> 00:00:23.770 gaps upon gaps. He's dangerous. NOTE Confidence: 0.709894021428571 00:00:23.770 --> 00:00:26.221 Those needing help or he was NOTE Confidence: 0.709894021428571 00:00:26.221 --> 00:00:27.980 unraveling not getting it. He NOTE Confidence: 0.823184773333333 00:00:27.990 --> 00:00:30.590 had shot up a bus and killed someone. NOTE Confidence: 0.853015471666667 00:00:31.360 --> 00:00:33.226 Minnesota's legal and mental health systems. NOTE Confidence: 0.881604921666666 00:00:33.660 --> 00:00:36.190 Broken cost of that as human lives. NOTE Confidence: 0.743269634 00:00:36.660 --> 00:00:38.700 Carol Levin investigates the gap. NOTE Confidence: 0.743269634 00:00:38.700 --> 00:00:41.530 Failure to treat failure to protect. NOTE Confidence: 0.947986525 00:00:43.330 --> 00:00:44.514 Thanks for joining us. NOTE Confidence: 0.947986525 00:00:44.514 --> 00:00:46.499 I'm investigative reporter AJ logo. NOTE Confidence: 0.947986525 00:00:46.500 --> 00:00:48.306 When Buffalo, MN became the scene NOTE Confidence: 0.947986525 00:00:48.306 --> 00:00:50.470 of a mass shooting and bombing, NOTE Confidence: 0.947986525 00:00:50.470 --> 00:00:51.703 our investigative team NOTE Confidence: 0.947986525 00:00:51.703 --> 00:00:53.347 began searching for answers. NOTE Confidence: 0.947986525 00:00:53.350 --> 00:00:56.764 What we found fatal gaps in Minnesota's NOTE Confidence: 0.947986525 00:00:56.764 --> 00:00:58.734 mental health and legal systems NOTE Confidence: 0.947986525 00:00:58.734 --> 00:01:01.060 that stretch far beyond Buffalo. NOTE Confidence: 0.84043572 00:01:03.040 --> 00:01:04.960 Housekeeping underway at the NOTE Confidence: 0.84043572 00:01:04.960 --> 00:01:07.175 Overbay home. Alone some task NOTE Confidence: 0.84043572 00:01:07.175 --> 00:01:09.310 for a man who lost his partner NOTE Confidence: 0.812661503333333 00:01:09.320 --> 00:01:10.109 in life. I NOTE Confidence: 0.934316196666667 00:01:10.120 --> 00:01:11.950 had to tell my kids that NOTE Confidence: 0.95917461 00:01:12.380 --> 00:01:13.368 Mommy's not coming home. NOTE Confidence: 0.913009373666667 00:01:13.940 --> 00:01:15.050 Donny's wife, Lindsay, NOTE Confidence: 0.913009373666667 00:01:15.050 --> 00:01:17.640 was murdered back in February when a NOTE Confidence: 0.913009373666667 00:01:17.704 --> 00:01:19.944 man with a handgun and briefcase full NOTE Confidence: 0.913009373666667 00:01:19.944 --> 00:01:22.722 of pipe bombs walked off a bus into NOTE Confidence: 0.913009373666667 00:01:22.722 --> 00:01:24.477 the Buffalo Allina Medical Clinic. NOTE Confidence: 0.913009373666667 00:01:24.480 --> 00:01:26.330 5 minutes later. 911 NOTE Confidence: 0.738233405 00:01:26.340 --> 00:01:28.155 What's the location of your NOTE Confidence: 0.738233405 00:01:28.155 --> 00:01:29.690 emergency crossroads clinic? NOTE Confidence: 0.87822654 00:01:29.880 --> 00:01:32.750 The gunman himself called 911. NOTE Confidence: 0.89154812 00:01:32.990 --> 00:01:35.456 Anything that you can about the NOTE Confidence: 0.89154812 00:01:35.456 --> 00:01:37.965 party that's shooting. I am Obama. NOTE Confidence: 0.89154812 00:01:37.965 --> 00:01:40.442 Two is gonna go off by the time I got NOTE Confidence: 0.89154812 00:01:40.442 --> 00:01:42.027 to the hospital I found out that she NOTE Confidence: 0.89154812 00:01:42.027 --> 00:01:43.553 had passed away in the horror table. NOTE Confidence: 0.893251002 00:01:43.590 --> 00:01:45.430 Four other people were injured. NOTE Confidence: 0.893251002 00:01:45.430 --> 00:01:48.006 The community mourned questions NOTE Confidence: 0.893251002 00:01:48.006 --> 00:01:50.340 mounted, many persist. NOTE Confidence: 0.916753031666667 00:01:50.450 --> 00:01:53.366 Trying to figure out why I. NOTE Confidence: 0.916753031666667 00:01:53.370 --> 00:01:56.178 I don't understand why. NOTE Confidence: 0.916753031666667 00:01:56.180 --> 00:01:58.950 Why and how I got four or NOTE Confidence: 0.916753031666667 00:01:58.950 --> 00:02:00.399 five of the first ambulance? NOTE Confidence: 0.87308736368421 00:02:00.410 --> 00:02:02.580 How was a man with a documented NOTE Confidence: 0.87308736368421 00:02:02.580 --> 00:02:04.202 history of violent threats and NOTE Confidence: 0.87308736368421 00:02:04.202 --> 00:02:06.372 mental illness able to get a gun? NOTE Confidence: 0.87308736368421 00:02:06.380 --> 00:02:08.660 It doesn't make sense to get some NOTE Confidence: 0.87308736368421 00:02:08.660 --> 00:02:10.340 of the answers we were seeking. NOTE Confidence: 0.87308736368421 00:02:10.340 --> 00:02:12.996 We needed to talk with a man here NOTE Confidence: 0.87308736368421 00:02:12.996 --> 00:02:15.415 at the Wright County Jail whose NOTE Confidence: 0.87308736368421 00:02:15.415 --> 00:02:18.410 voice you may not want to hear. NOTE Confidence: 0.87308736368421 00:02:18.410 --> 00:02:20.322 We're not looking to give the accused NOTE Confidence: 0.87308736368421 00:02:20.322 --> 00:02:22.535 Buffalo clinic shooter a platform or fame. NOTE Confidence: 0.87308736368421 00:02:22.535 --> 00:02:24.306 We're not broadcasting his NOTE Confidence: 0.87308736368421 00:02:24.306 --> 00:02:26.050 rationalizations or finger pointing, NOTE Confidence: 0.87308736368421 00:02:26.050 --> 00:02:28.026 but some of what he has to say NOTE Confidence: 0.87308736368421 00:02:28.026 --> 00:02:30.413 shines a light on the gap that cost NOTE Confidence: 0.87308736368421 00:02:30.413 --> 00:02:32.269 an innocent young mom her life. NOTE Confidence: 0.87308736368421 00:02:32.270 --> 00:02:33.458 How did you get that gun? NOTE Confidence: 0.6427451835 00:02:34.910 --> 00:02:37.390 Went to Fleet Farm and just bought it. NOTE Confidence: 0.6427451835 00:02:37.390 --> 00:02:39.130 Nothing came up, nothing flagged NOTE Confidence: 0.6427451835 00:02:39.130 --> 00:02:40.828 when you tried to buy it or NOTE Confidence: 0.6427451835 00:02:40.828 --> 00:02:42.136 it's not. I had no history, NOTE Confidence: 0.810921196666667 00:02:42.430 --> 00:02:45.545 no history. That's not exactly NOTE Confidence: 0.810921196666667 00:02:45.545 --> 00:02:47.938 true. Two years before this NOTE Confidence: 0.559950950666667 00:02:47.970 --> 00:02:49.748 early 15 shots were fired looking on NOTE Confidence: 0.559950950666667 00:02:49.748 --> 00:02:51.388 the least, five injured critically NOTE Confidence: 0.84491979125 00:02:51.810 --> 00:02:53.618 court and police records NOTE Confidence: 0.84491979125 00:02:53.618 --> 00:02:55.426 show a dangerous history. NOTE Confidence: 0.84491979125 00:02:55.430 --> 00:02:57.126 Years of simmering anger NOTE Confidence: 0.84491979125 00:02:57.126 --> 00:02:59.246 over his push for opioids. NOTE Confidence: 0.84491979125 00:02:59.250 --> 00:03:01.285 Following a 2016 back surgery NOTE Confidence: 0.84491979125 00:03:01.285 --> 00:03:03.320 where physicians cut off his NOTE Confidence: 0.84491979125 00:03:03.394 --> 00:03:05.454 prescription because he was NOTE Confidence: 0.84491979125 00:03:05.454 --> 00:03:08.029 hospitalized for a potential overdose. NOTE Confidence: 0.8263899925 00:03:08.130 --> 00:03:11.840 I was so mad and I stayed mad. October NOTE Confidence: 0.88173489 00:03:12.450 --> 00:03:14.778 13th, 2018. Police were contacted by a doctor NOTE Confidence: 0.88173489 00:03:14.778 --> 00:03:17.157 at the Buffalo Clinic who said Ulrich? NOTE Confidence: 0.88173489 00:03:17.160 --> 00:03:19.536 Was calling with threats about shooting, NOTE Confidence: 0.88173489 00:03:19.540 --> 00:03:21.730 blowing things up and practicing different NOTE Confidence: 0.88173489 00:03:21.730 --> 00:03:24.577 scenarios of how to get revenge that he NOTE Confidence: 0.88173489 00:03:24.577 --> 00:03:26.557 was angry with the medical community NOTE Confidence: 0.88173489 00:03:26.619 --> 00:03:28.642 a threat to himself in society and NOTE Confidence: 0.88173489 00:03:28.642 --> 00:03:31.042 that he wanted it big in sensational NOTE Confidence: 0.88173489 00:03:31.042 --> 00:03:34.034 so that it makes an impact or it NOTE Confidence: 0.88173489 00:03:34.034 --> 00:03:35.769 was issued a harassment restraining NOTE Confidence: 0.88173489 00:03:35.769 --> 00:03:38.269 order but less than three weeks later NOTE Confidence: 0.88173489 00:03:38.269 --> 00:03:40.351 he was charged with violating it. NOTE Confidence: 0.88173489 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:43.034 The court ordered a mental health exam. NOTE Confidence: 0.88173489 00:03:43.040 --> 00:03:45.896 A psychologist diagnosed him as mentally ill, NOTE Confidence: 0.88173489 00:03:45.900 --> 00:03:47.853 citing his grandiosity. NOTE Confidence: 0.88173489 00:03:47.853 --> 00:03:49.806 Paranoia and rigidity. NOTE Confidence: 0.88173489 00:03:49.810 --> 00:03:51.765 He was found mentally incompetent NOTE Confidence: 0.88173489 00:03:51.765 --> 00:03:52.938 to stand trial NOTE Confidence: 0.950617153636364 00:03:53.090 --> 00:03:55.290 under. Minnesota Court rules that NOTE Confidence: 0.950617153636364 00:03:55.290 --> 00:03:57.050 meant his misdemeanor charges NOTE Confidence: 0.950617153636364 00:03:57.050 --> 00:03:59.171 just had to be dropped without NOTE Confidence: 0.950617153636364 00:03:59.171 --> 00:04:01.309 even an attempt to treat him and NOTE Confidence: 0.950617153636364 00:04:01.310 --> 00:04:03.600 restore him to competency. Gap is NOTE Confidence: 0.938268492 00:04:03.610 --> 00:04:05.170 the perfect word for it. NOTE Confidence: 0.880230373333334 00:04:05.210 --> 00:04:07.298 Judge Catherine Messerich helped lead a NOTE Confidence: 0.880230373333334 00:04:07.298 --> 00:04:09.977 2019 work group that studied the gap for NOTE Confidence: 0.880230373333334 00:04:09.977 --> 00:04:12.230 people found incompetent to go to trial, NOTE Confidence: 0.880230373333334 00:04:12.230 --> 00:04:14.886 but who don't meet the standard for mandated NOTE Confidence: 0.880230373333334 00:04:14.886 --> 00:04:16.898 treatment through civil commitment at a NOTE Confidence: 0.880230373333334 00:04:16.898 --> 00:04:18.830 place like Saint Peter State Hospital. NOTE Confidence: 0.880230373333334 00:04:18.830 --> 00:04:21.100 Today there's been no consensus NOTE Confidence: 0.880230373333334 00:04:21.100 --> 00:04:24.080 on how to close the gap. What's NOTE Confidence: 0.872673741428571 00:04:24.090 --> 00:04:27.415 the cost of that? The cost of that is human NOTE Confidence: 0.872673741428571 00:04:27.415 --> 00:04:29.390 lives when those charges were dropped. NOTE Confidence: 0.872673741428571 00:04:29.390 --> 00:04:33.420 Were you provided any mental health care? No, NOTE Confidence: 0.890706915 00:04:34.180 --> 00:04:36.910 just turned loose with a hope and NOTE Confidence: 0.890706915 00:04:36.910 --> 00:04:39.740 a prayer he wouldn't reoffend. NOTE Confidence: 0.75373755 00:04:40.050 --> 00:04:41.600 It's a judge's worst nightmare. NOTE Confidence: 0.964862578 00:04:42.770 --> 00:04:44.870 How often does this happen? NOTE Confidence: 0.964862578 00:04:44.870 --> 00:04:47.414 Court data reveals from 2016 through NOTE Confidence: 0.964862578 00:04:47.414 --> 00:04:49.839 2020 more than 1600 misdemeanor cases, NOTE Confidence: 0.964862578 00:04:49.839 --> 00:04:52.376 like a lyrics, were dismissed because NOTE Confidence: 0.964862578 00:04:52.376 --> 00:04:54.686 the defendant was found incompetent. NOTE Confidence: 0.964862578 00:04:54.690 --> 00:04:57.105 It's also happening in more serious crimes. NOTE Confidence: 0.964862578 00:04:57.110 --> 00:04:59.526 Carol Evan from more than 2100 gross NOTE Confidence: 0.964862578 00:04:59.526 --> 00:05:01.616 misdemeanor and felony cases where NOTE Confidence: 0.964862578 00:05:01.616 --> 00:05:03.710 the defendant was found incompetent NOTE Confidence: 0.964862578 00:05:03.710 --> 00:05:06.405 but judges had little to no authority NOTE Confidence: 0.964862578 00:05:06.405 --> 00:05:08.848 to require them to get treatment, NOTE Confidence: 0.964862578 00:05:08.850 --> 00:05:11.262 take August, to Kelly found incompetent NOTE Confidence: 0.964862578 00:05:11.262 --> 00:05:13.248 in 13 different cases, including. NOTE Confidence: 0.964862578 00:05:13.248 --> 00:05:14.382 Felony terroristic threats. NOTE Confidence: 0.964862578 00:05:14.382 --> 00:05:17.040 Before chasing a woman with a knife, NOTE Confidence: 0.964862578 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:19.336 holding it to a 3 year old NOTE Confidence: 0.964862578 00:05:19.336 --> 00:05:20.320 throat demanding money, NOTE Confidence: 0.964862578 00:05:20.320 --> 00:05:22.364 it wasn't until that felony charge a NOTE Confidence: 0.964862578 00:05:22.364 --> 00:05:24.899 judge ordered he be sent to Saint Peter NOTE Confidence: 0.964862578 00:05:24.899 --> 00:05:26.830 Security Hospital for mental health care. NOTE Confidence: 0.806285423076923 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:29.622 It's a mess. There are gaps here NOTE Confidence: 0.806285423076923 00:05:29.622 --> 00:05:32.000 that simply should not be allowed. NOTE Confidence: 0.916203958235294 00:05:32.050 --> 00:05:33.902 Republican state Senator Jim NOTE Confidence: 0.916203958235294 00:05:33.902 --> 00:05:35.754 Abeler immediately began calling NOTE Confidence: 0.916203958235294 00:05:35.754 --> 00:05:37.853 legislative hearings based on what NOTE Confidence: 0.916203958235294 00:05:37.853 --> 00:05:39.337 Carol Evans investigation found. NOTE Confidence: 0.877280834285714 00:05:39.370 --> 00:05:42.902 There are cases after cases after cases of NOTE Confidence: 0.877280834285714 00:05:42.902 --> 00:05:46.760 people who have been in this gap in limbo, NOTE Confidence: 0.877280834285714 00:05:46.760 --> 00:05:48.764 in the Swiss cheese system where NOTE Confidence: 0.877280834285714 00:05:48.764 --> 00:05:51.299 they've gone off and murdered somebody. NOTE Confidence: 0.25490934 00:05:52.770 --> 00:05:55.830 Elena clinic back to you rich and NOTE Confidence: 0.25490934 00:05:55.830 --> 00:05:57.840 that burning question about the gun. NOTE Confidence: 0.911914788571429 00:05:57.950 --> 00:05:59.230 If you're mentally incompetent NOTE Confidence: 0.911914788571429 00:05:59.230 --> 00:06:00.868 to stand trial, how are you NOTE Confidence: 0.911914788571429 00:06:00.868 --> 00:06:01.998 competent to own a weapon? NOTE Confidence: 0.893532952857143 00:06:02.230 --> 00:06:05.107 There's another gap in the Uhlrich case. NOTE Confidence: 0.893532952857143 00:06:05.110 --> 00:06:07.670 Not only was there a failure to treat NOTE Confidence: 0.893532952857143 00:06:07.670 --> 00:06:10.449 when he was diagnosed as incompetent, NOTE Confidence: 0.893532952857143 00:06:10.450 --> 00:06:13.070 the prosecutor dismissed the charges. NOTE Confidence: 0.893532952857143 00:06:13.070 --> 00:06:16.050 A judge never officially ruled, NOTE Confidence: 0.893532952857143 00:06:16.050 --> 00:06:17.650 he was mentally incompetent, NOTE Confidence: 0.893532952857143 00:06:17.650 --> 00:06:20.050 so there was nothing on his NOTE Confidence: 0.893532952857143 00:06:20.127 --> 00:06:22.091 record preventing him from NOTE Confidence: 0.893532952857143 00:06:22.091 --> 00:06:24.055 legally buying that handgun. NOTE Confidence: 0.893532952857143 00:06:24.060 --> 00:06:27.425 Gaps upon gaps that cost NOTE Confidence: 0.893532952857143 00:06:27.425 --> 00:06:28.950 Lindsey overbay's life. NOTE Confidence: 0.879320755714286 00:06:29.500 --> 00:06:32.118 There's a hole. There's a void that. NOTE Confidence: 0.7715814 00:06:33.300 --> 00:06:34.930 Just isn't going to be filled. NOTE Confidence: 0.869233386153846 00:06:37.150 --> 00:06:39.348 Coming up, could a deadly shooting on NOTE Confidence: 0.869233386153846 00:06:39.348 --> 00:06:41.558 a downtown bus have been prevented? NOTE Confidence: 0.869233386153846 00:06:41.560 --> 00:06:43.564 He was saying that I need help. NOTE Confidence: 0.869233386153846 00:06:43.564 --> 00:06:45.946 The gap continues after the break. NOTE Confidence: 0.80471444 00:06:52.450 --> 00:06:55.926 February 6th, 2029. Thirty at NOTE Confidence: 0.80471444 00:06:55.926 --> 00:06:58.110 night no provocation, no warning. NOTE Confidence: 0.80471444 00:06:58.110 --> 00:07:01.214 Just gunshots to the heads of two NOTE Confidence: 0.80471444 00:07:01.214 --> 00:07:03.866 passengers on this Metro transit bus. NOTE Confidence: 0.80471444 00:07:03.870 --> 00:07:07.530 One man badly wounded, the other killed. NOTE Confidence: 0.772281398 00:07:07.770 --> 00:07:09.320 This could have been prevented. NOTE Confidence: 0.8694974325 00:07:10.350 --> 00:07:12.205 In most news stories could NOTE Confidence: 0.8694974325 00:07:12.205 --> 00:07:13.450 have been prevented. NOTE Confidence: 0.8694974325 00:07:13.450 --> 00:07:16.330 This is where you'd meet the victims family. NOTE Confidence: 0.8694974325 00:07:16.330 --> 00:07:19.930 So so you are, but probably NOTE Confidence: 0.8694974325 00:07:19.930 --> 00:07:22.405 not the victim you expect. NOTE Confidence: 0.8694974325 00:07:22.410 --> 00:07:24.110 Geraldine neighbors is the mom, NOTE Confidence: 0.8694974325 00:07:24.110 --> 00:07:25.190 Britney Leslie. NOTE Confidence: 0.8694974325 00:07:25.190 --> 00:07:26.947 We were saying that I mean help NOTE Confidence: 0.8694974325 00:07:26.950 --> 00:07:28.950 the sister of Malcolm Leslie, NOTE Confidence: 0.8694974325 00:07:28.950 --> 00:07:31.046 the 26 year old man on the bus, NOTE Confidence: 0.8694974325 00:07:31.050 --> 00:07:33.300 accused of pulling the trigger. NOTE Confidence: 0.8694974325 00:07:33.300 --> 00:07:35.034 His family says the state failed NOTE Confidence: 0.8694974325 00:07:35.034 --> 00:07:37.061 to give him the mental health NOTE Confidence: 0.8694974325 00:07:37.061 --> 00:07:38.669 treatment a judge ordered. NOTE Confidence: 0.021921039 00:07:40.230 --> 00:07:40.720 NN. NOTE Confidence: 0.7639296 00:07:43.190 --> 00:07:45.950 You could see that yeah, scary NOTE Confidence: 0.862888723529412 00:07:46.710 --> 00:07:49.194 Malcolm. Family says signs of mental NOTE Confidence: 0.862888723529412 00:07:49.194 --> 00:07:52.183 illness began to manifest as a child and NOTE Confidence: 0.862888723529412 00:07:52.183 --> 00:07:54.678 in early adulthood worse. And could you NOTE Confidence: 0.951034751111111 00:07:54.690 --> 00:07:56.652 tell that this was a man NOTE Confidence: 0.951034751111111 00:07:56.652 --> 00:07:59.020 battling mental illness? Yes, NOTE Confidence: 0.7041647545 00:07:59.610 --> 00:08:01.635 cab driver Kelly CRNP picked NOTE Confidence: 0.7041647545 00:08:01.635 --> 00:08:03.182 Malcolm up December 30th, NOTE Confidence: 0.7041647545 00:08:03.182 --> 00:08:05.506 2018 and drove him to Brooklyn Park. NOTE Confidence: 0.7041647545 00:08:05.510 --> 00:08:08.044 Confused on where he wanted to go. NOTE Confidence: 0.7041647545 00:08:08.050 --> 00:08:10.380 He tried to pay with marijuana. He NOTE Confidence: 0.835913045 00:08:10.390 --> 00:08:11.626 told him I'd call the police. NOTE Confidence: 0.939735434 00:08:11.720 --> 00:08:13.290 If he didn't pay me, and NOTE Confidence: 0.939735434 00:08:13.290 --> 00:08:14.550 that's when I heard the click, NOTE Confidence: 0.9451014425 00:08:14.920 --> 00:08:17.760 the click of a gun to her head, NOTE Confidence: 0.9451014425 00:08:17.760 --> 00:08:19.208 it didn't go off. NOTE Confidence: 0.9451014425 00:08:19.208 --> 00:08:21.018 Malcolm hopped out and ran, NOTE Confidence: 0.9451014425 00:08:21.020 --> 00:08:22.928 later, arrested, charged with NOTE Confidence: 0.9451014425 00:08:22.928 --> 00:08:25.313 assault with a dangerous weapon. NOTE Confidence: 0.9451014425 00:08:25.320 --> 00:08:27.000 A court ordered mental health exam, NOTE Confidence: 0.9451014425 00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:28.928 diagnosed him with substantial NOTE Confidence: 0.9451014425 00:08:28.928 --> 00:08:30.856 psychiatric disorder which grossly NOTE Confidence: 0.9451014425 00:08:30.856 --> 00:08:33.019 impairs his judgment behavior. NOTE Confidence: 0.9451014425 00:08:33.020 --> 00:08:34.908 Capacity to recognize reality, NOTE Confidence: 0.9451014425 00:08:34.908 --> 00:08:37.268 and ability to reason or NOTE Confidence: 0.9451014425 00:08:37.268 --> 00:08:39.370 understand a judge ruled Malcolm NOTE Confidence: 0.9451014425 00:08:39.370 --> 00:08:41.315 incompetent to go to trial. NOTE Confidence: 0.9451014425 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:41.890 He agreed. NOTE Confidence: 0.9451014425 00:08:41.890 --> 00:08:43.600 To be civilly committed for treatment NOTE Confidence: 0.9451014425 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:45.561 and the judge ordered him committed NOTE Confidence: 0.9451014425 00:08:45.561 --> 00:08:47.571 to the Commissioner of Human Services. NOTE Confidence: 0.9451014425 00:08:47.580 --> 00:08:50.581 DHS, which runs the Saint Peter NOTE Confidence: 0.9451014425 00:08:50.581 --> 00:08:51.969 Security Hospital and Anoka NOTE Confidence: 0.9451014425 00:08:51.969 --> 00:08:53.010 Regional Treatment Center, NOTE Confidence: 0.839617446666667 00:08:53.100 --> 00:08:54.168 the County Attorney NOTE Confidence: 0.942655793333333 00:08:54.180 --> 00:08:56.844 called me up and said that he is very NOTE Confidence: 0.942655793333333 00:08:56.844 --> 00:08:58.757 mentally ill and that they would. NOTE Confidence: 0.942655793333333 00:08:58.760 --> 00:09:00.692 He's probably never going to get NOTE Confidence: 0.942655793333333 00:09:00.692 --> 00:09:02.874 out and then I had saw online NOTE Confidence: 0.942655793333333 00:09:02.874 --> 00:09:05.070 that he had shot up a bus and NOTE Confidence: 0.876969446666667 00:09:05.080 --> 00:09:06.310 killed someone that NOTE Confidence: 0.918931880454545 00:09:06.320 --> 00:09:07.283 someone Tommy McCoy, NOTE Confidence: 0.918931880454545 00:09:07.283 --> 00:09:09.530 taking the bus to meet a housing NOTE Confidence: 0.918931880454545 00:09:09.598 --> 00:09:12.104 advocate as he attempted to move his NOTE Confidence: 0.918931880454545 00:09:12.104 --> 00:09:14.029 daughter and grandkids from Chicago. NOTE Confidence: 0.918931880454545 00:09:14.030 --> 00:09:16.028 To live with him here in the Twin Cities, NOTE Confidence: 0.918931880454545 00:09:16.030 --> 00:09:17.130 anybody could have missed sitting NOTE Confidence: 0.918931880454545 00:09:17.130 --> 00:09:18.910 on that bus. Trahearne Pollard, NOTE Confidence: 0.918931880454545 00:09:18.910 --> 00:09:21.357 anybody is Mccoy's cousin? NOTE Confidence: 0.918931880454545 00:09:21.357 --> 00:09:24.360 He says his family asked for answers, NOTE Confidence: 0.918931880454545 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:26.139 asked for accountability. NOTE Confidence: 0.930726102 00:09:26.190 --> 00:09:27.920 When it comes to accountability NOTE Confidence: 0.915348257142857 00:09:28.430 --> 00:09:30.208 now we got the finger point game. NOTE Confidence: 0.915348257142857 00:09:30.210 --> 00:09:31.530 It always your fault always. NOTE Confidence: 0.915348257142857 00:09:31.530 --> 00:09:32.518 Your photo is day NOTE Confidence: 0.881427515875 00:09:32.530 --> 00:09:34.375 photo. Our investigation finds what NOTE Confidence: 0.881427515875 00:09:34.375 --> 00:09:36.665 happened leading up to the death NOTE Confidence: 0.881427515875 00:09:36.665 --> 00:09:38.595 of Tommy McCoy were catastrophic. NOTE Confidence: 0.881427515875 00:09:38.600 --> 00:09:41.246 Failures on all levels of Hennepin NOTE Confidence: 0.881427515875 00:09:41.246 --> 00:09:42.900 County and Minnesota's criminal NOTE Confidence: 0.881427515875 00:09:42.900 --> 00:09:44.990 justice and mental health systems. And NOTE Confidence: 0.877914729285714 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:46.088 it's such a tragedy. NOTE Confidence: 0.877914729285714 00:09:46.088 --> 00:09:47.448 Lisa Daly is executive director NOTE Confidence: 0.877914729285714 00:09:47.448 --> 00:09:49.227 for the treatment Advocacy Center, NOTE Confidence: 0.877914729285714 00:09:49.230 --> 00:09:50.675 which focuses on the intersection NOTE Confidence: 0.877914729285714 00:09:50.675 --> 00:09:52.120 of mental illness and the NOTE Confidence: 0.877914729285714 00:09:52.173 --> 00:09:53.349 criminal justice system. NOTE Confidence: 0.877914729285714 00:09:53.350 --> 00:09:54.433 She reviewed Malcolm's NOTE Confidence: 0.877914729285714 00:09:54.433 --> 00:09:55.877 records for Carol Levin. NOTE Confidence: 0.96294615 00:09:55.930 --> 00:09:57.272 It just seems like something, really. NOTE Confidence: 0.96294615 00:09:57.272 --> 00:09:59.444 Really fell through the cracks there. NOTE Confidence: 0.885239264166667 00:09:59.900 --> 00:10:00.938 September 3rd, 2019. NOTE Confidence: 0.885239264166667 00:10:00.938 --> 00:10:03.949 After the incident with a gun in the cab, NOTE Confidence: 0.885239264166667 00:10:03.950 --> 00:10:06.415 Hennepin County Judge Phil Carruthers NOTE Confidence: 0.885239264166667 00:10:06.415 --> 00:10:08.880 ruled Malcolm a substantial likelihood NOTE Confidence: 0.885239264166667 00:10:08.951 --> 00:10:11.639 of causing physical harm that he's NOTE Confidence: 0.885239264166667 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:13.431 incapable of voluntarily following NOTE Confidence: 0.885239264166667 00:10:13.498 --> 00:10:15.973 a treatment plan so required NOTE Confidence: 0.885239264166667 00:10:15.973 --> 00:10:17.458 inpatient psychiatric treatment. NOTE Confidence: 0.885239264166667 00:10:17.460 --> 00:10:19.278 This is when Malcolm agreed and NOTE Confidence: 0.885239264166667 00:10:19.278 --> 00:10:20.914 the judge ordered him civilly NOTE Confidence: 0.885239264166667 00:10:20.914 --> 00:10:23.116 committed to the Commissioner of DHS. NOTE Confidence: 0.885239264166667 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:25.430 The order states transportation will be NOTE Confidence: 0.885239264166667 00:10:25.430 --> 00:10:28.198 provided by the Sheriff of Hennepin County. NOTE Confidence: 0.885239264166667 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:30.468 Malcolm was to be held safe and NOTE Confidence: 0.885239264166667 00:10:30.468 --> 00:10:33.200 secure and the head of the treatment NOTE Confidence: 0.885239264166667 00:10:33.200 --> 00:10:35.732 facility shall not permit his release, NOTE Confidence: 0.885239264166667 00:10:35.740 --> 00:10:37.432 discharge or provisional discharge NOTE Confidence: 0.885239264166667 00:10:37.432 --> 00:10:39.970 until further order of the court. NOTE Confidence: 0.7514218175 00:10:40.280 --> 00:10:41.728 This didn't happen. No NOTE Confidence: 0.712315638571429 00:10:41.740 --> 00:10:44.680 happen, no medication, no no NOTE Confidence: 0.712315638571429 00:10:44.680 --> 00:10:46.740 doctor's visits, no nothing. NOTE Confidence: 0.9444167885 00:10:47.540 --> 00:10:48.875 Malcolm's family says all they NOTE Confidence: 0.9444167885 00:10:48.875 --> 00:10:50.936 know is he walked out of court and NOTE Confidence: 0.9444167885 00:10:50.936 --> 00:10:52.511 went home to live with his mom. NOTE Confidence: 0.9444167885 00:10:52.520 --> 00:10:54.464 He continued to deteriorate, NOTE Confidence: 0.9444167885 00:10:54.464 --> 00:10:55.922 hearing voices becoming NOTE Confidence: 0.9444167885 00:10:55.922 --> 00:10:58.270 more and more delusional. NOTE Confidence: 0.9444167885 00:10:58.270 --> 00:11:01.120 Self medicating with drugs. They NOTE Confidence: 0.781623177777778 00:11:01.510 --> 00:11:02.826 sent him back to you and then NOTE Confidence: 0.781623177777778 00:11:02.826 --> 00:11:04.880 back home. Yeah I you know? Yeah NOTE Confidence: 0.885452154 00:11:05.550 --> 00:11:07.630 are you a doctor? No, did you NOTE Confidence: 0.885452154 00:11:07.630 --> 00:11:08.855 know what to do with what you NOTE Confidence: 0.914409485714286 00:11:08.870 --> 00:11:09.955 were seeing going on with NOTE Confidence: 0.914409485714286 00:11:09.955 --> 00:11:12.760 your son? No, no, no NOTE Confidence: 0.796672793 00:11:13.510 --> 00:11:15.740 as months passed, court records NOTE Confidence: 0.796672793 00:11:15.740 --> 00:11:17.970 show treatment reports were filed, NOTE Confidence: 0.796672793 00:11:17.970 --> 00:11:21.070 noting Malcolm's whereabouts were unknown. NOTE Confidence: 0.796672793 00:11:21.070 --> 00:11:23.866 So was anyone looking for him? NOTE Confidence: 0.796672793 00:11:23.870 --> 00:11:27.160 There's no record anyone from DHS or NOTE Confidence: 0.796672793 00:11:27.160 --> 00:11:30.040 Hennepin County actually tried to find him. NOTE Confidence: 0.796672793 00:11:30.040 --> 00:11:32.396 He wasn't hiding, he was home with NOTE Confidence: 0.796672793 00:11:32.396 --> 00:11:34.548 me backing that up just one week NOTE Confidence: 0.796672793 00:11:34.548 --> 00:11:36.599 before the bus shooting records show. NOTE Confidence: 0.796672793 00:11:36.600 --> 00:11:39.120 Geraldine escorted her son to a court. NOTE Confidence: 0.796672793 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:41.110 Ordered follow up evaluation. He NOTE Confidence: 0.712759238571429 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:43.794 just, you know. Slip through the cracks NOTE Confidence: 0.92649563875 00:11:44.260 --> 00:11:45.888 until five months after NOTE Confidence: 0.92649563875 00:11:45.888 --> 00:11:47.516 he was ordered committed. NOTE Confidence: 0.92649563875 00:11:47.520 --> 00:11:50.719 Supposed to be held safe and secure, NOTE Confidence: 0.92649563875 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:53.748 he got on that bus and for no NOTE Confidence: 0.92649563875 00:11:53.748 --> 00:11:55.308 discernable reason. Pulled a gun. NOTE Confidence: 0.817914826666667 00:11:55.480 --> 00:11:57.000 The fact that this young man was able NOTE Confidence: 0.817914826666667 00:11:57.000 --> 00:11:58.550 to walk out of that courtroom is NOTE Confidence: 0.817914826666667 00:11:58.550 --> 00:12:02.140 a catastrophic failure to society. NOTE Confidence: 0.817914826666667 00:12:02.140 --> 00:12:05.548 And unfortunately my cousin was a recipient NOTE Confidence: 0.940797608888889 00:12:05.560 --> 00:12:08.272 of that failure that could have NOTE Confidence: 0.940797608888889 00:12:08.272 --> 00:12:10.070 happened to anyone. Anyone? NOTE Confidence: 0.794402265 00:12:12.520 --> 00:12:13.828 Still ahead, a state NOTE Confidence: 0.870939722 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:16.140 policy decision results in murders, NOTE Confidence: 0.870939722 00:12:16.140 --> 00:12:18.048 rapes, and violent assaults. NOTE Confidence: 0.60962124 00:12:18.140 --> 00:12:19.860 I don't think people understand, NOTE Confidence: 0.60962124 00:12:19.860 --> 00:12:21.620 or we certainly didn't. That's NOTE Confidence: 0.703964606 00:12:21.700 --> 00:12:23.260 coming up on the gap. NOTE Confidence: 0.93317134 00:12:29.710 --> 00:12:31.050 Welcome back to the gap. NOTE Confidence: 0.93317134 00:12:31.050 --> 00:12:32.334 As our investigation continued, NOTE Confidence: 0.93317134 00:12:32.334 --> 00:12:34.703 we found a gap in the system NOTE Confidence: 0.93317134 00:12:34.703 --> 00:12:36.959 caused by a state policy change NOTE Confidence: 0.93317134 00:12:36.959 --> 00:12:39.020 that's leading directly to violent NOTE Confidence: 0.93317134 00:12:39.020 --> 00:12:40.760 crimes in Minnesota communities. NOTE Confidence: 0.462815835 00:12:43.590 --> 00:12:47.370 Eastlake station Terry on Sherman's life is NOTE Confidence: 0.462815835 00:12:47.370 --> 00:12:51.530 seemingly one wrong track after another. NOTE Confidence: 0.855880341666666 00:12:51.530 --> 00:12:54.225 A hell on wheels existence filled with NOTE Confidence: 0.855880341666666 00:12:54.225 --> 00:12:56.219 violence and runnings with police. NOTE Confidence: 0.649701430769231 00:12:56.470 --> 00:12:57.790 So y'all take people to jail NOTE Confidence: 0.649701430769231 00:12:57.790 --> 00:12:59.220 for getting to bite you said at NOTE Confidence: 0.936826481818182 00:12:59.230 --> 00:13:01.453 the end of the line a young woman who NOTE Confidence: 0.936826481818182 00:13:01.453 --> 00:13:04.279 loved him, beaten repeatedly stabbed NOTE Confidence: 0.34927119 00:13:04.470 --> 00:13:05.418 when Abigail was NOTE Confidence: 0.646094226666667 00:13:05.430 --> 00:13:07.119 like. Crudely, mark NOTE Confidence: 0.9074957675 00:13:07.190 --> 00:13:08.698 next to Abigail's body. NOTE Confidence: 0.9074957675 00:13:08.698 --> 00:13:10.583 Sherman's 2 year old nephew NOTE Confidence: 0.9074957675 00:13:10.583 --> 00:13:12.372 covered in blood, but alive. NOTE Confidence: 0.9074957675 00:13:12.372 --> 00:13:13.896 According to police records, NOTE Confidence: 0.9074957675 00:13:13.900 --> 00:13:15.710 Sherman said the boy became NOTE Confidence: 0.9074957675 00:13:15.710 --> 00:13:17.870 possessed like a dog told him. NOTE Confidence: 0.9074957675 00:13:17.870 --> 00:13:20.566 Abigail was really a man and a dog, NOTE Confidence: 0.9074957675 00:13:20.570 --> 00:13:23.384 so he punched her hard as hell, NOTE Confidence: 0.9074957675 00:13:23.390 --> 00:13:25.170 but didn't remember stabbing her. NOTE Confidence: 0.9074957675 00:13:25.170 --> 00:13:25.620 You can't NOTE Confidence: 0.8602681325 00:13:25.630 --> 00:13:29.570 even imagine this nightmare. You NOTE Confidence: 0.8302981775 00:13:29.580 --> 00:13:30.608 just can't imagine that NOTE Confidence: 0.7126441025 00:13:30.860 --> 00:13:33.185 Michelle and Tom Simpson heard from me NOTE Confidence: 0.7126441025 00:13:33.185 --> 00:13:35.586 to talk about are talking about their NOTE Confidence: 0.7126441025 00:13:35.586 --> 00:13:37.418 daughter Abigail's murder because they NOTE Confidence: 0.7126441025 00:13:37.418 --> 00:13:39.530 believe the responsibility lies not just NOTE Confidence: 0.7126441025 00:13:39.587 --> 00:13:41.400 with the man accused of killing her, NOTE Confidence: 0.7126441025 00:13:41.400 --> 00:13:45.090 but also with the door of this state agency. NOTE Confidence: 0.581519995555556 00:13:45.300 --> 00:13:46.850 I don't think people understand NOTE Confidence: 0.581519995555556 00:13:46.850 --> 00:13:49.290 what we certainly didn't to NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:13:49.300 --> 00:13:51.140 understand. You need Terry NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:13:51.140 --> 00:13:53.440 on Sherman's history in 2016, NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:13:53.440 --> 00:13:54.910 he provoked an argument with NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:13:54.910 --> 00:13:56.380 a stranger on the train, NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:13:56.380 --> 00:13:59.866 followed him off to rob him. NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:13:59.870 --> 00:14:02.476 And with a friend kicked and stomped his NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:14:02.476 --> 00:14:05.249 head into the tracks in a plea bargain, NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:14:05.250 --> 00:14:07.530 he was convicted of just theft. NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:14:07.530 --> 00:14:10.226 The next year, 2017, he met 19 year NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:14:10.226 --> 00:14:12.628 old Abigail Simpson from Wisconsin, NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:14:12.630 --> 00:14:14.814 who moved to Saint Paul to get treatment NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:14:14.814 --> 00:14:16.728 at Hazleton for substance use issues. NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:14:16.730 --> 00:14:19.300 She met him when she was in early recovery. NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:14:19.300 --> 00:14:20.176 After treatment, NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:14:20.176 --> 00:14:21.928 Abigail returned to Wisconsin. NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:14:21.930 --> 00:14:24.858 While Sherman's troubles worsened NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:14:24.858 --> 00:14:27.338 August 2018, breaking into cars, NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:14:27.338 --> 00:14:29.523 and he's been starting brushfires NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:14:29.530 --> 00:14:31.539 subject of an all out manhunt in NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:14:31.539 --> 00:14:33.176 Maplewood and running around through NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:14:33.176 --> 00:14:34.981 the woods and neighborhoods terrorizing NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:14:34.981 --> 00:14:37.336 people with a garden hall and also NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:14:37.336 --> 00:14:39.416 accused in two other assaults, NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:14:39.420 --> 00:14:41.292 including punching female employees. NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:14:41.292 --> 00:14:43.632 While stealing from this store. NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:14:43.640 --> 00:14:45.400 But he wasn't convicted. NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:14:45.400 --> 00:14:48.040 A court ruled he was incompetent NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:14:48.121 --> 00:14:49.279 to stand trial, NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:14:49.280 --> 00:14:51.244 mentally ill chemically dependent, NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:14:51.244 --> 00:14:54.688 and in need of treatment because he NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:14:54.688 --> 00:14:56.813 posed a substantial likelihood of NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:14:56.813 --> 00:14:59.319 physical harm to self or others, NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:14:59.320 --> 00:14:59.946 the court. NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:14:59.946 --> 00:15:01.511 Portered Sherman civilly committed to NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:15:01.511 --> 00:15:03.808 the custody of the Commissioner of the NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:15:03.808 --> 00:15:05.438 State Department of Human Services, NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:05.985 DHS, NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:15:05.985 --> 00:15:09.800 which runs the Saint Peter Security Hospital, NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:15:09.800 --> 00:15:12.677 just two months after he was committed. NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:15:12.680 --> 00:15:15.490 DHS issued this bulletin announcing NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:15:15.490 --> 00:15:17.738 a major policy change, NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:15:17.740 --> 00:15:20.239 citing a shortage of mental health beds. NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:23.520 DHS unilaterally decided to provisionally NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:15:23.520 --> 00:15:26.800 discharge that means release patients. NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:15:26.800 --> 00:15:29.808 It felt no longer needed in patient care. NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:15:29.810 --> 00:15:31.862 Even people with histories of violence NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:15:31.862 --> 00:15:35.068 who had not yet been restored to competency, NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:15:35.070 --> 00:15:37.158 they explained it in this PowerPoint NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:15:37.158 --> 00:15:38.550 to treat more people. NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:15:38.550 --> 00:15:41.190 They had to discharge more people. NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:15:41.190 --> 00:15:44.286 Terrian was sent to joyful home health care, NOTE Confidence: 0.716134134444444 00:15:44.290 --> 00:15:46.970 a Fridley group home were responding NOTE Confidence: 0.65712323 00:15:46.970 --> 00:15:49.098 to the increased demand for our beds. NOTE Confidence: 0.550249634285714 00:15:49.230 --> 00:15:50.814 Doctor Kylie Stevens, NOTE Confidence: 0.550249634285714 00:15:50.814 --> 00:15:52.926 DHS chief medical officer. NOTE Confidence: 0.550249634285714 00:15:52.930 --> 00:15:55.555 She says restoring a person to competency NOTE Confidence: 0.550249634285714 00:15:55.555 --> 00:15:57.993 to face criminal charges is not NOTE Confidence: 0.550249634285714 00:15:57.993 --> 00:16:00.058 their job treating mental illnesses. NOTE Confidence: 0.550249634285714 00:16:00.060 --> 00:16:02.405 So when they believe someone no longer NOTE Confidence: 0.550249634285714 00:16:02.405 --> 00:16:04.577 needs a hospital bed level of care, NOTE Confidence: 0.550249634285714 00:16:04.580 --> 00:16:06.360 they're now provisionally discharged. NOTE Confidence: 0.8736308475 00:16:06.400 --> 00:16:08.720 It's very easy with large systems NOTE Confidence: 0.8736308475 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:10.805 and government to think you've NOTE Confidence: 0.8736308475 00:16:10.805 --> 00:16:12.770 solved one problem and to create NOTE Confidence: 0.941757788333333 00:16:12.820 --> 00:16:14.806 a whole new set of problems. NOTE Confidence: 0.95994185 00:16:16.550 --> 00:16:18.160 And I think that's what happened here. NOTE Confidence: 0.86647344 00:16:18.750 --> 00:16:20.386 Judge Catherine Messerich explains NOTE Confidence: 0.86647344 00:16:20.386 --> 00:16:23.212 that DHS decision created a new gap NOTE Confidence: 0.86647344 00:16:23.212 --> 00:16:25.375 in the system when someone like Terry NOTE Confidence: 0.86647344 00:16:25.375 --> 00:16:27.823 on still mentally incompetent to go NOTE Confidence: 0.86647344 00:16:27.823 --> 00:16:30.023 to trial is provisionally discharged. NOTE Confidence: 0.86647344 00:16:30.030 --> 00:16:31.538 Judges hands are tide. NOTE Confidence: 0.86647344 00:16:31.538 --> 00:16:33.423 They legally can't put them NOTE Confidence: 0.86647344 00:16:33.423 --> 00:16:35.320 back in jail indefinitely. NOTE Confidence: 0.85908457125 00:16:35.530 --> 00:16:37.135 They don't have the authority NOTE Confidence: 0.85908457125 00:16:37.135 --> 00:16:40.060 to do anything else. But NOTE Confidence: 0.927990083333333 00:16:42.850 --> 00:16:43.519 let them go. NOTE Confidence: 0.860901723333333 00:16:44.050 --> 00:16:47.950 DHS claims these discharges are safe, NOTE Confidence: 0.860901723333333 00:16:47.950 --> 00:16:50.740 though they have no data to back that up. NOTE Confidence: 0.867271499 00:16:51.110 --> 00:16:52.950 If a person is not able to go back to NOTE Confidence: 0.867271499 00:16:52.950 --> 00:16:55.138 jail and they're not able to be maintained NOTE Confidence: 0.930502315 00:16:55.150 --> 00:16:56.378 safely in the community, NOTE Confidence: 0.83655572 00:16:56.450 --> 00:16:57.880 and we don't provisionally discharge NOTE Confidence: 0.82289455 00:16:57.890 --> 00:16:59.066 them, it's as simple as that. NOTE Confidence: 0.82289455 00:16:59.070 --> 00:17:01.128 Do you track how many patients NOTE Confidence: 0.82289455 00:17:01.130 --> 00:17:02.634 who have been provisionally NOTE Confidence: 0.82289455 00:17:02.634 --> 00:17:04.334 discharged since this change go NOTE Confidence: 0.82289455 00:17:04.334 --> 00:17:06.180 on to commit more crimes? We NOTE Confidence: 0.907082092 00:17:06.190 --> 00:17:07.100 have no way of of NOTE Confidence: 0.975700216666667 00:17:07.110 --> 00:17:08.460 tracking that information. NOTE Confidence: 0.91136629625 00:17:08.650 --> 00:17:11.135 DHS doesn't track it, neither NOTE Confidence: 0.91136629625 00:17:11.135 --> 00:17:13.384 does anyone else state senator. NOTE Confidence: 0.91136629625 00:17:13.384 --> 00:17:16.023 Jim Abeler is already holding hearings in NOTE Confidence: 0.91136629625 00:17:16.023 --> 00:17:18.149 response to Carol Evans investigation. NOTE Confidence: 0.921928723636364 00:17:18.200 --> 00:17:20.520 Since nobody tracks these individuals NOTE Confidence: 0.921928723636364 00:17:20.520 --> 00:17:23.640 who are running around the community. NOTE Confidence: 0.921928723636364 00:17:23.640 --> 00:17:25.428 Because it's nobody's responsibility. NOTE Confidence: 0.921928723636364 00:17:25.428 --> 00:17:27.663 No one knows what happens, NOTE Confidence: 0.921928723636364 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:30.380 So what happens Carol NOTE Confidence: 0.889562668666667 00:17:30.380 --> 00:17:32.364 Levin tried to do? What no one else NOTE Confidence: 0.889562668666667 00:17:32.364 --> 00:17:34.518 in the state is track these cases, NOTE Confidence: 0.889562668666667 00:17:34.520 --> 00:17:37.382 what we found flies in the face of DHS NOTE Confidence: 0.889562668666667 00:17:37.382 --> 00:17:39.502 claim that they only release people NOTE Confidence: 0.889562668666667 00:17:39.502 --> 00:17:42.469 who are safe to be in the community NOTE Confidence: 0.790275258 00:17:42.840 --> 00:17:45.685 today. Carol Levin has identified 64 NOTE Confidence: 0.790275258 00:17:45.685 --> 00:17:47.995 provisional discharge gap cases where the NOTE Confidence: 0.790275258 00:17:47.995 --> 00:17:50.260 person released while still incompetent, NOTE Confidence: 0.790275258 00:17:50.260 --> 00:17:51.925 committed new crimes, NOTE Confidence: 0.790275258 00:17:51.925 --> 00:17:53.590 including violent assaults, NOTE Confidence: 0.790275258 00:17:53.590 --> 00:17:55.526 rapes and multiple murders. NOTE Confidence: 0.790275258 00:17:55.526 --> 00:17:57.946 Examples include a police officer NOTE Confidence: 0.790275258 00:17:57.946 --> 00:18:00.860 dragged down the street by a speeding NOTE Confidence: 0.790275258 00:18:00.860 --> 00:18:02.963 pickup while being punched according NOTE Confidence: 0.790275258 00:18:02.963 --> 00:18:05.729 to criminal charges by dimone ivory, NOTE Confidence: 0.790275258 00:18:05.730 --> 00:18:08.262 a severely mentally ill man who NOTE Confidence: 0.790275258 00:18:08.262 --> 00:18:09.950 had been provisionally discharged NOTE Confidence: 0.790275258 00:18:10.024 --> 00:18:11.388 just two weeks prior. NOTE Confidence: 0.790275258 00:18:11.390 --> 00:18:14.006 In another case, a woman raped NOTE Confidence: 0.790275258 00:18:14.006 --> 00:18:16.290 on this Minneapolis picnic table. NOTE Confidence: 0.790275258 00:18:16.290 --> 00:18:18.275 Then there's a Landis Augustine NOTE Confidence: 0.790275258 00:18:18.275 --> 00:18:19.863 who attacked a girlfriend, NOTE Confidence: 0.790275258 00:18:19.870 --> 00:18:21.525 leaving her bloody and battered NOTE Confidence: 0.790275258 00:18:21.525 --> 00:18:22.849 and court records show, NOTE Confidence: 0.790275258 00:18:22.850 --> 00:18:24.730 stabbed two other men, NOTE Confidence: 0.790275258 00:18:24.730 --> 00:18:27.080 all while on provisional discharge. NOTE Confidence: 0.790275258 00:18:27.150 --> 00:18:29.180 But oftentimes. NOTE Confidence: 0.780252053333333 00:18:29.180 --> 00:18:32.010 There isn't real monitoring for these NOTE Confidence: 0.780252053333333 00:18:32.010 --> 00:18:34.050 individuals who are provisionally NOTE Confidence: 0.780252053333333 00:18:34.050 --> 00:18:35.840 discharged, and that's what puts NOTE Confidence: 0.780252053333333 00:18:35.840 --> 00:18:37.630 the public in danger. Brandon NOTE Confidence: 0.81978426 00:18:37.640 --> 00:18:40.010 Vaughn is an attorney representing Abigail's NOTE Confidence: 0.81978426 00:18:40.010 --> 00:18:42.876 family who didn't know until after her death. NOTE Confidence: 0.81978426 00:18:42.876 --> 00:18:44.468 Teriyaan was on provisional NOTE Confidence: 0.81978426 00:18:44.468 --> 00:18:46.662 discharge from the state security NOTE Confidence: 0.81978426 00:18:46.662 --> 00:18:48.344 hospital at the group home. NOTE Confidence: 0.81978426 00:18:48.344 --> 00:18:50.530 He was free to come and go NOTE Confidence: 0.81978426 00:18:50.530 --> 00:18:52.515 record show during eight months. NOTE Confidence: 0.81978426 00:18:52.520 --> 00:18:56.097 He missed his daily anti psychotic medication NOTE Confidence: 0.81978426 00:18:56.100 --> 00:18:59.117 76 times and was even arrested spotted. NOTE Confidence: 0.81978426 00:18:59.120 --> 00:19:01.136 Selling narcotics on a Metro transit NOTE Confidence: 0.81978426 00:19:01.140 --> 00:19:03.616 train despite clear warning signs, NOTE Confidence: 0.81978426 00:19:03.616 --> 00:19:06.070 Terry was not getting the treatment NOTE Confidence: 0.81978426 00:19:06.143 --> 00:19:08.320 needed for a safe and stable life. NOTE Confidence: 0.81978426 00:19:08.320 --> 00:19:11.498 Ramsey County now responsible for his care, NOTE Confidence: 0.81978426 00:19:11.500 --> 00:19:13.925 never tried to revoke his NOTE Confidence: 0.81978426 00:19:13.925 --> 00:19:14.895 provisional discharge. NOTE Confidence: 0.81978426 00:19:14.900 --> 00:19:16.655 Meanwhile, Abigail returned to the NOTE Confidence: 0.81978426 00:19:16.655 --> 00:19:18.760 Twin Cities for school and work, NOTE Confidence: 0.81978426 00:19:18.760 --> 00:19:19.960 and the two were dating. NOTE Confidence: 0.81978426 00:19:19.960 --> 00:19:20.190 She NOTE Confidence: 0.817329728333334 00:19:20.200 --> 00:19:21.670 was in a relationship with him. NOTE Confidence: 0.817329728333334 00:19:21.670 --> 00:19:22.650 She cared about him. NOTE Confidence: 0.821702 00:19:23.040 --> 00:19:24.900 They were babysitting Terriens nephew NOTE Confidence: 0.821702 00:19:24.900 --> 00:19:27.200 together the night he's now accused NOTE Confidence: 0.821702 00:19:27.200 --> 00:19:29.105 of killing her while delusional. NOTE Confidence: 0.821702 00:19:29.110 --> 00:19:31.896 Hallucinating she'd become a man he was NOTE Confidence: 0.821702 00:19:31.896 --> 00:19:34.689 later diagnosed with drug induced psychosis, NOTE Confidence: 0.821702 00:19:34.690 --> 00:19:37.186 and is now back at Saint Peter today. NOTE Confidence: 0.821702 00:19:37.190 --> 00:19:40.280 Incompetent to be tried for Abigail's murder, NOTE Confidence: 0.821702 00:19:40.280 --> 00:19:42.655 her family is begging Minnesota NOTE Confidence: 0.821702 00:19:42.655 --> 00:19:45.040 leaders to hear their story. NOTE Confidence: 0.821702 00:19:45.040 --> 00:19:47.730 And close the gap. Do NOTE Confidence: 0.865304996666667 00:19:47.740 --> 00:19:51.466 it as if their child's life depended on it NOTE Confidence: 0.824101691666667 00:19:52.320 --> 00:19:53.620 coming up the courts and NOTE Confidence: 0.824101691666667 00:19:53.620 --> 00:19:54.986 mental health system. NOTE Confidence: 0.824101691666667 00:19:54.986 --> 00:19:58.380 Lose a repeat accused sexual predator. NOTE Confidence: 0.824101691666667 00:19:58.380 --> 00:20:00.116 He's dangerous, the gap NOTE Confidence: 0.824101691666667 00:20:00.116 --> 00:20:01.588 continues after the break. NOTE Confidence: 0.830387098571429 00:20:09.060 --> 00:20:12.000 And I'm constantly looking over my shoulder. NOTE Confidence: 0.85023172 00:20:12.030 --> 00:20:14.123 Laura Carlson knew the house next door NOTE Confidence: 0.85023172 00:20:14.123 --> 00:20:16.320 in her quiet Fridley neighborhood. NOTE Confidence: 0.85023172 00:20:16.320 --> 00:20:18.052 The blue one had recently become NOTE Confidence: 0.85023172 00:20:18.052 --> 00:20:20.860 a group home, but had no clue who NOTE Confidence: 0.85023172 00:20:20.860 --> 00:20:23.670 would move in and what would happen. NOTE Confidence: 0.682986303333333 00:20:23.780 --> 00:20:27.596 I mean, jeez, that dude was like a NOTE Confidence: 0.682986303333333 00:20:27.596 --> 00:20:30.036 sexual predator. Right next door NOTE Confidence: 0.775870986 00:20:30.310 --> 00:20:32.410 you won't find Omar Issa on NOTE Confidence: 0.775870986 00:20:32.410 --> 00:20:33.810 Minnesota sex offender registry. NOTE Confidence: 0.775870986 00:20:33.810 --> 00:20:35.565 He doesn't have to register NOTE Confidence: 0.775870986 00:20:35.565 --> 00:20:36.969 his address with police. NOTE Confidence: 0.775870986 00:20:36.970 --> 00:20:39.399 He's never been convicted of a sex NOTE Confidence: 0.775870986 00:20:39.399 --> 00:20:41.326 crime on the public court website. NOTE Confidence: 0.775870986 00:20:41.326 --> 00:20:43.616 His record shows just one NOTE Confidence: 0.775870986 00:20:43.616 --> 00:20:44.990 old gross misdemeanor. NOTE Confidence: 0.775870986 00:20:44.990 --> 00:20:47.726 Nothing that hints at the truth. NOTE Confidence: 0.775870986 00:20:47.730 --> 00:20:50.670 His dangerous in 2017 amenable Tan NOTE Confidence: 0.775870986 00:20:50.670 --> 00:20:52.670 was approached outside the Carmel NOTE Confidence: 0.775870986 00:20:52.670 --> 00:20:55.040 Wall in Minneapolis by Omar Issa, NOTE Confidence: 0.59339662 00:20:55.270 --> 00:20:58.560 and he asked me a favor. Sister, I'm NOTE Confidence: 0.719345954 00:20:58.570 --> 00:21:00.010 sick. Can you help me? NOTE Confidence: 0.882525575714286 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:02.657 Amina agreed to give him a ride. NOTE Confidence: 0.882525575714286 00:21:02.660 --> 00:21:05.460 It was a mistake once in the car she says NOTE Confidence: 0.882525575714286 00:21:05.529 --> 00:21:08.328 a ride home was not with this man wanted. NOTE Confidence: 0.856158675 00:21:08.420 --> 00:21:10.310 You can't tell the way he's NOTE Confidence: 0.856158675 00:21:10.310 --> 00:21:11.888 touched me. He's not good. NOTE Confidence: 0.901672934 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:13.445 She pulled over at this NOTE Confidence: 0.901672934 00:21:13.445 --> 00:21:14.930 intersection and ordered him out. NOTE Confidence: 0.690397985 00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:17.893 He said I have to gun and his anger. NOTE Confidence: 0.690397985 00:21:17.893 --> 00:21:21.520 Amina says she jumped out but he grabbed her. NOTE Confidence: 0.690397985 00:21:21.520 --> 00:21:23.506 A struggle ensued here in the NOTE Confidence: 0.690397985 00:21:23.506 --> 00:21:25.753 street is she screamed for help and NOTE Confidence: 0.690397985 00:21:25.753 --> 00:21:27.755 he yelled that she was his wife. NOTE Confidence: 0.690397985 00:21:27.760 --> 00:21:29.050 He's trying to pull you back NOTE Confidence: 0.690397985 00:21:29.050 --> 00:21:30.520 into the car and he's telling NOTE Confidence: 0.690397985 00:21:30.520 --> 00:21:31.920 people that you're his wife. NOTE Confidence: 0.690397985 00:21:31.920 --> 00:21:36.430 Yeah, and I say no, I'm not his wife help. NOTE Confidence: 0.690397985 00:21:36.430 --> 00:21:37.546 He was trying to take you. NOTE Confidence: 0.690397985 00:21:37.550 --> 00:21:40.679 Yeah, front of people front of people NOTE Confidence: 0.858611274166667 00:21:40.770 --> 00:21:42.086 with witnesses calling police NOTE Confidence: 0.858611274166667 00:21:42.086 --> 00:21:44.610 Isa let her go but stole her car. NOTE Confidence: 0.858611274166667 00:21:44.610 --> 00:21:46.595 He was arrested three days NOTE Confidence: 0.858611274166667 00:21:46.595 --> 00:21:48.183 later for aggravated robbery. NOTE Confidence: 0.858611274166667 00:21:48.190 --> 00:21:50.626 Amina thought he'd go to prison instead, NOTE Confidence: 0.858611274166667 00:21:50.630 --> 00:21:52.695 police and court records show NOTE Confidence: 0.858611274166667 00:21:52.695 --> 00:21:54.347 he's repeatedly walked free, NOTE Confidence: 0.858611274166667 00:21:54.350 --> 00:21:56.858 leaving a trail of sexually assaulted NOTE Confidence: 0.84323131 00:21:56.870 --> 00:21:58.474 women. It's clear that NOTE Confidence: 0.84323131 00:21:58.474 --> 00:22:00.479 he's a ticking time bomb. NOTE Confidence: 0.809122663 00:22:00.910 --> 00:22:02.998 Mark Gray is a civil mental NOTE Confidence: 0.809122663 00:22:02.998 --> 00:22:04.390 health attorney appointed since NOTE Confidence: 0.809122663 00:22:04.390 --> 00:22:06.460 2009 to represent Omar Issa. NOTE Confidence: 0.809122663 00:22:06.460 --> 00:22:07.501 He says, Issa, NOTE Confidence: 0.809122663 00:22:07.501 --> 00:22:09.236 who is severely mentally ill, NOTE Confidence: 0.809122663 00:22:09.240 --> 00:22:11.240 repeatedly falls through gaps NOTE Confidence: 0.809122663 00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:12.580 in Minnesota's legal and NOTE Confidence: 0.809122663 00:22:12.580 --> 00:22:13.640 mental health systems. Well, NOTE Confidence: 0.955748362 00:22:13.650 --> 00:22:15.150 I don't think there's any NOTE Confidence: 0.955748362 00:22:15.150 --> 00:22:16.650 question we are failing him, NOTE Confidence: 0.92791176625 00:22:16.680 --> 00:22:18.040 found incompetent to stand NOTE Confidence: 0.92791176625 00:22:18.040 --> 00:22:19.400 trial for the carjacking. NOTE Confidence: 0.92791176625 00:22:19.400 --> 00:22:21.170 A judge ordered him civilly committed NOTE Confidence: 0.92791176625 00:22:21.170 --> 00:22:23.123 to the care of the Minnesota NOTE Confidence: 0.92791176625 00:22:23.123 --> 00:22:24.908 Department of Human Services to NOTE Confidence: 0.92791176625 00:22:24.908 --> 00:22:27.117 ensure his safety and that of others. NOTE Confidence: 0.92791176625 00:22:27.120 --> 00:22:29.280 It was is fifth commitment. NOTE Confidence: 0.92791176625 00:22:29.280 --> 00:22:31.373 DHS held him at the Anoka Treatment NOTE Confidence: 0.92791176625 00:22:31.373 --> 00:22:33.157 Center less than six months NOTE Confidence: 0.92791176625 00:22:33.157 --> 00:22:34.399 before provisionally discharging NOTE Confidence: 0.92791176625 00:22:34.399 --> 00:22:36.469 him back into the community. NOTE Confidence: 0.92791176625 00:22:36.470 --> 00:22:37.690 I call it revolving door NOTE Confidence: 0.92791176625 00:22:37.690 --> 00:22:38.617 repeatedly in trouble. NOTE Confidence: 0.92791176625 00:22:38.617 --> 00:22:40.780 Issa bounced in and out of jail NOTE Confidence: 0.92791176625 00:22:40.841 --> 00:22:42.441 courts in the mental health NOTE Confidence: 0.92791176625 00:22:42.441 --> 00:22:44.041 system until August of 2020. NOTE Confidence: 0.92791176625 00:22:44.050 --> 00:22:46.563 He's charged with ****** a woman on NOTE Confidence: 0.92791176625 00:22:46.563 --> 00:22:48.462 this picnic table while witnesses NOTE Confidence: 0.92791176625 00:22:48.462 --> 00:22:50.883 screamed at him to stop again, NOTE Confidence: 0.92791176625 00:22:50.883 --> 00:22:53.548 incompetent to stand trial again, NOTE Confidence: 0.92791176625 00:22:53.550 --> 00:22:55.476 civilly committed again, NOTE Confidence: 0.92791176625 00:22:55.476 --> 00:22:58.044 provisionally discharged by DHS, NOTE Confidence: 0.92791176625 00:22:58.050 --> 00:23:00.066 he was sent to the Fridley Group NOTE Confidence: 0.92791176625 00:23:00.066 --> 00:23:02.040 home next door to Laura Carlson, NOTE Confidence: 0.84746855 00:23:02.210 --> 00:23:04.550 and she ran from this house NOTE Confidence: 0.84746855 00:23:04.550 --> 00:23:07.088 over here up my front step. NOTE Confidence: 0.846520924 00:23:07.140 --> 00:23:08.118 On September 9th, NOTE Confidence: 0.846520924 00:23:08.118 --> 00:23:10.400 a terrified woman ran to Laura's door, NOTE Confidence: 0.846520924 00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:12.350 court records show Isa had suddenly NOTE Confidence: 0.846520924 00:23:12.350 --> 00:23:14.191 attacked a female worker in the NOTE Confidence: 0.846520924 00:23:14.191 --> 00:23:15.676 group home, grabbed her neck, NOTE Confidence: 0.846520924 00:23:15.676 --> 00:23:18.853 struck her in the face and chest in a NOTE Confidence: 0.846520924 00:23:18.853 --> 00:23:21.193 violent sexual assault before she escaped, NOTE Confidence: 0.846520924 00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:23.794 she was crying and screaming the very NOTE Confidence: 0.846520924 00:23:23.794 --> 00:23:25.936 next day at the Anoka courthouse. NOTE Confidence: 0.846520924 00:23:25.940 --> 00:23:27.590 The inexplicable happened, NOTE Confidence: 0.877136504 00:23:27.700 --> 00:23:29.500 even though it was allegedly NOTE Confidence: 0.877136504 00:23:29.500 --> 00:23:30.763 Isa's third attack, NOTE Confidence: 0.877136504 00:23:30.763 --> 00:23:33.710 even though he was still under his. NOTE Confidence: 0.877136504 00:23:33.710 --> 00:23:36.500 By now 8th civil commitment order, NOTE Confidence: 0.877136504 00:23:36.500 --> 00:23:39.110 a judge. Let Issa walk free. NOTE Confidence: 0.918334149565217 00:23:39.620 --> 00:23:41.965 He was also issued a no contact NOTE Confidence: 0.918334149565217 00:23:41.965 --> 00:23:43.713 order prohibiting him from going NOTE Confidence: 0.918334149565217 00:23:43.713 --> 00:23:46.058 to the group home where he was NOTE Confidence: 0.918334149565217 00:23:46.058 --> 00:23:47.858 technically under civil commitment NOTE Confidence: 0.918334149565217 00:23:47.860 --> 00:23:50.800 that judges order mades a homeless. NOTE Confidence: 0.918334149565217 00:23:50.800 --> 00:23:52.680 He disappeared onto the streets, NOTE Confidence: 0.918334149565217 00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:54.728 missing numerous court dates. NOTE Confidence: 0.78222615 00:23:54.820 --> 00:23:55.880 That's not good for him. NOTE Confidence: 0.78222615 00:23:55.880 --> 00:23:57.220 It's not good for society. NOTE Confidence: 0.805533951818182 00:23:57.480 --> 00:23:59.508 He stayed last until Carol Levine NOTE Confidence: 0.805533951818182 00:23:59.508 --> 00:24:01.400 found him wandering the streets, NOTE Confidence: 0.805533951818182 00:24:01.400 --> 00:24:03.428 hanging out at the same mall NOTE Confidence: 0.805533951818182 00:24:03.428 --> 00:24:05.289 where he approached Amina 4 years NOTE Confidence: 0.77275979 00:24:05.300 --> 00:24:07.690 ago. He scared me, really, scared me. NOTE Confidence: 0.923352385333333 00:24:07.870 --> 00:24:09.568 Less than two hours after our NOTE Confidence: 0.923352385333333 00:24:09.568 --> 00:24:11.091 report aired exposing the courts NOTE Confidence: 0.923352385333333 00:24:11.091 --> 00:24:12.447 and mental health systems, NOTE Confidence: 0.923352385333333 00:24:12.450 --> 00:24:14.450 inept handling of visas care, NOTE Confidence: 0.923352385333333 00:24:14.450 --> 00:24:16.214 police rushed out and picked him up. NOTE Confidence: 0.910141669 00:24:16.250 --> 00:24:17.485 This is like a screen NOTE Confidence: 0.910141669 00:24:17.485 --> 00:24:18.720 door on the summary state. NOTE Confidence: 0.901937965714286 00:24:18.730 --> 00:24:20.155 Representative Tony Albright NOTE Confidence: 0.901937965714286 00:24:20.155 --> 00:24:22.055 says to begin sealing. NOTE Confidence: 0.901937965714286 00:24:22.060 --> 00:24:24.190 The leak scares investigation exposed, NOTE Confidence: 0.901937965714286 00:24:24.190 --> 00:24:26.428 leading to murders, rapes and violence. NOTE Confidence: 0.901937965714286 00:24:26.430 --> 00:24:27.882 He's preparing legislation to NOTE Confidence: 0.901937965714286 00:24:27.882 --> 00:24:29.697 better meld the mental health NOTE Confidence: 0.901937965714286 00:24:29.697 --> 00:24:31.569 and justice systems together. NOTE Confidence: 0.901937965714286 00:24:31.570 --> 00:24:33.556 He acknowledges it's just a first NOTE Confidence: 0.901937965714286 00:24:33.556 --> 00:24:36.266 step with many more needed to ensure NOTE Confidence: 0.901937965714286 00:24:36.266 --> 00:24:38.018 Minnesotans with mental illness. NOTE Confidence: 0.901937965714286 00:24:38.020 --> 00:24:41.948 Get care and stop falling in to gaps. NOTE Confidence: 0.901937965714286 00:24:42.320 --> 00:24:42.670 What's NOTE Confidence: 0.949762188 00:24:42.680 --> 00:24:43.840 the risk of doing nothing? NOTE Confidence: 0.949762188 00:24:43.840 --> 00:24:45.448 The risk of doing nothing is NOTE Confidence: 0.949762188 00:24:45.448 --> 00:24:47.579 that we end up with more cases, NOTE Confidence: 0.949762188 00:24:47.580 --> 00:24:49.404 like you've reported on where families NOTE Confidence: 0.949762188 00:24:49.404 --> 00:24:51.410 are going to be ripped apart.