WEBVTT NOTE duration:"00:02:25.1810000" NOTE language:en-us NOTE Confidence: 0.858589500000001 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.668 There is a growing movement among NOTE Confidence: 0.858589500000001 00:00:01.668 --> 00:00:03.788 prosecutors in the US to find wrongful NOTE Confidence: 0.858589500000001 00:00:03.788 --> 00:00:05.378 convictions and then overturn them NOTE Confidence: 0.858589500000001 00:00:05.378 --> 00:00:06.952 rather than waiting for defense NOTE Confidence: 0.858589500000001 00:00:06.952 --> 00:00:08.710 attorneys to fight for those people NOTE Confidence: 0.858589500000001 00:00:08.710 --> 00:00:11.530 or for a judge to order them to do it. NOTE Confidence: 0.858589500000001 00:00:11.530 --> 00:00:12.690 1 Minnesota prosecutor was NOTE Confidence: 0.858589500000001 00:00:12.690 --> 00:00:14.140 way ahead of the curve. NOTE Confidence: 0.858589500000001 00:00:14.140 --> 00:00:17.080 Emily Havoc had reports. DNA testing NOTE Confidence: 0.8700848 00:00:17.080 --> 00:00:19.972 initiated by the Ramsey County Attorney's NOTE Confidence: 0.8700848 00:00:19.972 --> 00:00:22.789 Office has resulted in the exoneration NOTE Confidence: 0.8700848 00:00:22.789 --> 00:00:26.390 of a man convicted of rape. In the early NOTE Confidence: 0.85111076 00:00:26.390 --> 00:00:28.700 2000s, Ramsey County Attorney Susan NOTE Confidence: 0.85111076 00:00:28.700 --> 00:00:31.399 Gaertner's office turned inward to look NOTE Confidence: 0.85111076 00:00:31.399 --> 00:00:33.618 at DNA evidence for their own cases NOTE Confidence: 0.85111076 00:00:33.618 --> 00:00:36.170 and see if they'd made any mistakes. NOTE Confidence: 0.85111076 00:00:36.170 --> 00:00:38.907 In this case, the truth was delayed, NOTE Confidence: 0.85111076 00:00:38.910 --> 00:00:41.250 but today justice has been served. NOTE Confidence: 0.85111076 00:00:41.250 --> 00:00:43.986 Gaertner was on the early end of a NOTE Confidence: 0.85111076 00:00:43.986 --> 00:00:46.494 growing wave that's now taking the NOTE Confidence: 0.85111076 00:00:46.494 --> 00:00:48.679 form of conviction review units. NOTE Confidence: 0.85111076 00:00:48.680 --> 00:00:50.585 An effort to write wrongful NOTE Confidence: 0.85111076 00:00:50.585 --> 00:00:52.490 convictions from the inside and NOTE Confidence: 0.85111076 00:00:52.559 --> 00:00:54.803 Minnesota is getting its own led NOTE Confidence: 0.85111076 00:00:54.803 --> 00:00:56.890 by Attorney General Keith Ellison. NOTE Confidence: 0.8288751 00:00:57.030 --> 00:00:59.870 And if you say you didn't do it, NOTE Confidence: 0.8288751 00:00:59.870 --> 00:01:01.645 you know we're not guaranteeing NOTE Confidence: 0.8288751 00:01:01.645 --> 00:01:03.420 you're going to get out. NOTE Confidence: 0.8288751 00:01:03.420 --> 00:01:05.200 You may never get out, NOTE Confidence: 0.8288751 00:01:05.200 --> 00:01:07.936 but we will say that we're not going NOTE Confidence: 0.8288751 00:01:07.936 --> 00:01:10.291 to simply ignore your plead if you NOTE Confidence: 0.8288751 00:01:10.291 --> 00:01:13.009 got law and fax to bring forward, NOTE Confidence: 0.8288751 00:01:13.010 --> 00:01:15.488 somebody should at least look at it. NOTE Confidence: 0.8288751 00:01:15.490 --> 00:01:17.155 Minnesota CR you was started NOTE Confidence: 0.8288751 00:01:17.155 --> 00:01:19.256 with a $300,000 grant from the NOTE Confidence: 0.8288751 00:01:19.256 --> 00:01:21.106 Justice Department to learn more NOTE Confidence: 0.8288751 00:01:21.106 --> 00:01:22.950 about what success looks like. NOTE Confidence: 0.8288751 00:01:22.950 --> 00:01:24.720 We turned to Philadelphia's unit. NOTE Confidence: 0.8288751 00:01:24.720 --> 00:01:26.850 They've won 21 exonerations under DA. NOTE Confidence: 0.8288751 00:01:26.850 --> 00:01:27.484 Larry Krasner. NOTE Confidence: 0.8288751 00:01:27.484 --> 00:01:29.386 Just in the last three years. NOTE Confidence: 0.843421159999999 00:01:31.410 --> 00:01:34.002 You know, I guess the advice that I NOTE Confidence: 0.843421159999999 00:01:34.002 --> 00:01:36.422 would give to other units an I would NOTE Confidence: 0.843421159999999 00:01:36.422 --> 00:01:39.122 give to the AG in Minnesota is that NOTE Confidence: 0.843421159999999 00:01:39.122 --> 00:01:41.366 300,000 bucks ain't gonna do it. NOTE Confidence: 0.84342116 00:01:41.370 --> 00:01:43.582 Krasner's unit has about 20 staff and NOTE Confidence: 0.84342116 00:01:43.582 --> 00:01:46.348 it's still not enough. The best that we NOTE Confidence: 0.84342116 00:01:46.350 --> 00:01:51.390 can do to be honest about this is view it as. NOTE Confidence: 0.84342116 00:01:51.390 --> 00:01:52.578 As an emergency ward, NOTE Confidence: 0.84342116 00:01:52.578 --> 00:01:54.844 or maybe as a wartime field hospital NOTE Confidence: 0.84342116 00:01:54.844 --> 00:01:57.388 where everything you're doing is triage, NOTE Confidence: 0.84342116 00:01:57.390 --> 00:01:58.802 you have limited resources. NOTE Confidence: 0.84342116 00:01:58.802 --> 00:02:00.214 You have limited time. NOTE Confidence: 0.84342116 00:02:00.220 --> 00:02:02.332 People have been in jail cells NOTE Confidence: 0.84342116 00:02:02.332 --> 00:02:04.644 for a very, very long time, NOTE Confidence: 0.84342116 00:02:04.644 --> 00:02:07.152 and you're trying to figure out. NOTE Confidence: 0.84342116 00:02:07.160 --> 00:02:08.980 The ones where there's a NOTE Confidence: 0.84342116 00:02:08.980 --> 00:02:11.196 possibility of saving a life and NOTE Confidence: 0.84342116 00:02:11.196 --> 00:02:13.478 then you trying to save that life. 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