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Well, good morning.

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Two years ago I stood here this very place

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surrounded by community stakeholders.

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Some of whom are with us here.

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Today we announced that we were taking steps

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to protect the tenants of Marion County

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against bad actor landlords only weeks later.

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The pandemic disrupted

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the world as we knew it.

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Throwing renters into even further turmoil.

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Thanks to a robust local rental

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assistance program that has distributed

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more than $90 million since 2020,

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eviction filings in Marion County

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remained lower than pre pandemic levels.

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But far too many residents still face

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poor and even dangerous living conditions.

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Which is. Why we are here today?

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Over the past several years,

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we've heard a parade of horror stories.

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From tenants at Lakeside Pointe

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apartment complex.

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Stories of collapsing ceilings of families,

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going weeks without utilities.

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Of maintenance requests.

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Going completely unanswered.

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Of health issues caused by

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unacceptable living conditions.

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And fire. After fire after fire.

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In short,

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stories of families living in

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already vulnerable circumstances.

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Who must also navigate unsafe living

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conditions due to owner neglect?

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Residents understandably ask.

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How on earth can this go on here?

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In Indianapolis well since 2017,

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the Marion County Public Health

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Department and the city.

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Have diligently pursued civil

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enforcement actions.

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Filing hundreds of violations

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against ownership of the property.

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Under current law.

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What has been less certain, however,

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is the scope of the city's authority

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to sue an owner when a pattern.

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Of violations adds up to a public nuisance.

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A pattern that threatens the

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health and the safety.

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Of residents and neighbors.

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What is beyond dispute though?

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Is that more action is needed?

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And that includes a creative application.

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Of existing authorities and clarification

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of existing law at the state level.

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That is why we welcomed a suit last summer.

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From the Attorney General's

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office against Lakeside points.

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Property owners.

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This year new bills have been

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proposed in both chambers of the

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Indiana General Assembly to clarify

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and address gaps in state law.

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We support those efforts.

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And in light of the ongoing decline in

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living conditions at Lakeside Point.

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The city of Indianapolis.

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And the Marion County Department of

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Public Health. Are giving notice.

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If property owner owners do not

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make real progress toward fixing

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health and safety violations.

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By January 31st.

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2022 we will jointly file suit under

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the Indiana State Nuisance Law.

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There must be real consequences.

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For charging Indianapolis residents.

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To live in unacceptable and uninhabitable.

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Conditions.

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That should not be the way of life.

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In any city. But especially not in our city.

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Furthermore, there must be consequences.

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For the significant financial cost.

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To Indianapolis taxpayers.

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As a result of the owners failure

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to maintain properties.

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Repeated I empd repeated IFD visits.

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To Lakeside point are costly to all of us.

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A family's lost wages.

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Due to housing disruption,

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that too is costly to all of us.

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So our message as a community is

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this property owners are obligated

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to do more than cash rent checks.

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At the very least, the properties they.

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Own and maintain must be habitable.

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Lakeside points current owners

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have until the 31st of this month.

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To make good on those obligations.

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At that point, the city will have no choice.

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But to take legal action?

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So now I'd like to introduce

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the CEO of the Marion County

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Health and Hospital Corporation.

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Paul Babcock Paul.

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Thank you mayor.

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My name is Paul Babcock and I am the CEO

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of the Health and Hospital Corporation,

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the agency that overseas and supports the

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Marion County Public Health Department,

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Eskenazi Health and Indianapolis

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Emergency Medical Services.

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The property owners at Lakeside

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Point have for years ignored the

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basic health and safety needs of

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their residents to keep up with

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the level of complaints and inspect

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their a housing inspector that is.

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Visits this property every day and in fact,

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housing division.

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Sweep of this property in 2019.

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Found more than 600 violations,

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some of which may remain unresolved to date.

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The Marion County Public

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Health Department has,

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on average 60 cases in court at

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any given time related to the

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Lakeside Pointe apartment complex.

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It is unacceptable that ownership has

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refused to resolve hundreds of health and

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safety violations that threaten tenants

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and jeopardize our communities health.

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The Marion County Public Health

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Department has worked with the

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city of Indianapolis for years to

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try and impact this property and

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strongly believe that we must now

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take action in the interest of our

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Community and our Members health,

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we are proud to join this city in

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seeking better conditions for the

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residents of Lakeside Point and finally,

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I'd like to thank the housing

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inspectors who have tirelessly worked.

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To make this location a better place,

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even in the midst of a global

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pandemic in which they must do

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their essential services as well as

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help the residents of Marion County

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as they survive through COVID.

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And now I'll hand it over to Brandon

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below with Indiana legal services.

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Thank you.

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My name is Branden Beeler.

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I'm the housing Law Center

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director at Indiana Legal Services.

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First and foremost, we want to thank

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Mayor Hogsett and the administration,

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and particularly Deputy Corporation

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counsel Matt Giffen and his team

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at the Office of Corporation

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Counsel for this important step.

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Today, tenant habitability

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claims are challenging to bring.

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They require investigation,

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preparation and collaboration

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with partners such as the Marion

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County Public Health Department.

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Even though Indiana law requires.

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Landlords to provide safe,

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clean and habitable housing to their tenants.

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This is often not the case.

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Bad actor landlords are aware of

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the challenge tenants face and

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asserting habitability claims

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on their own and will prey on

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the most vulnerable of tenants.

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One of the top requests for legal

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services that our office receives

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are from tenants trying to rectify

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their bad living conditions.

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Unfortunately,

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many of these requests are also

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coupled with the tenant facing an

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eviction action for retaliation

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for complaining to the landlord

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about the bad conditions.

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And in the worst of cases we've seen

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Marion County courts evict tenants

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because they could not afford to

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pay their rent because they had

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to spend their own money to make

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repairs in their rental units.

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ILS has been a proud partner with

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the city of Indianapolis and

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its continued efforts to bring

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parity and fairness to tenants

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facing habitability issues.

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As Mayor Hogsett alluded to in 2020,

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we partnered with the City

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of Indianapolis to begin the

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tenant Legal Assistance Project,

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or T Lab,

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which is specifically aimed at providing

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legal assistance to Marion County

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tenants who are experiencing bad

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conditions with their rental units.

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Tenants in Indianapolis can call

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the Mayor's Action Center and be

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referred to the talent program and

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every Thursday that lap program.

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Offers a free advice line for

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Marion County residents.

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In addition,

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Lakeside Pointe Apartments came

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on ILS radar due to the work

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through that Elapp program.

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In addition to T lap ILS partner

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with the city of Indianapolis and

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operating the eviction avoidance

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project and more recently,

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the Tenant Assistance Project,

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which provides on site attorneys

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attendants to consult with prior

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to their possession hearings.

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ILS wants to thank Mayor Hogsett and

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his administration and are proud to

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partner with the city of Indianapolis

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in taking this important step

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today to help ensure that runners

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at Marion County and especially

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families with children have safe,

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clean and healthy rental homes.

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Thank you.

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I'd like to introduce Claire Holbe,

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the executive director of Patchwork,

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ND.

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Good morning everyone.

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My name is Claire Holbe and I am

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the executive director of

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patchwork in DA501C3 nonprofit,

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based out of Indianapolis IN.

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As we gather in this conference room to

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pursue yet another Ave for a solution

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for the residents at Lakeside Point,

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I believe it is important to highlight

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again that it is the residents who are

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living this reality every single day.

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At this moment in the middle

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of an Indiana winter,

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there are numerous families

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without hot water units without

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sufficient heat and homes with mold

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and leaks and rotting ceilings.

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Patchwork in the first became aware of

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the gross negligence at Lakeside point,

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through relationships with residents

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who came to Indiana through US,

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refugee resettlement.

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These families sought safety and a

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community where they could live with dignity.

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I've personally walked into the

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homes of many of these families who

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have come seeking refuge from war

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torn countries such as Burma and

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the Democratic Republic of Congo.

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What I have witnessed is anything but

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a safe and a dignified place to live.

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I recall one woman,

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a young mother living with her elderly

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parents and her infant children.

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She invited me into her home,

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and upon entering into her bathroom.

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What I saw was a leaking brown

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substance into the bathtub where

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she bathed her children.

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This was later confirmed by the Marion

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County Health Department to be sewage

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leaking from the apartment above.

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The mother had tried multiple

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times to alert property management

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about the issue until neighborhood

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advocates intervened and involved

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the health department.

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Her requests for help were ignored.

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Our cry as community advocates

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has been unified all along.

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All we have asked for is a safe,

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dignified and affordable living

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environment for current and future

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residents at Lakeside Pointe.

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Long term residents have described

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having no other place to go,

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lest they decide to uproot their

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lives and their families lives

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from the neighborhood and from the

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Washington Township School system.

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Our neighbors deserve to feel

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safe in their home.

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Early on Saturday morning I

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received a call from a family that

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I had visited multiple times.

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This family had battled longstanding

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issues such as months without

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hot water and emergency leaks.

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This particular morning,

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a fire raged yards from their back window.

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The heat from the fire had caused

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their back window to crack.

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The 16 year old daughter had

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reached out to me and fear video

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calling and saying that she had

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never been this scared in her life.

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Residents and neighborhood advocates

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have been working relentlessly

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for months and years to see

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change come to the community,

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we could not have gone into this point

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without the brave residents who have

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spoken out to the media and in court.

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We could not have gotten here without

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the care and commitment of the

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Community and neighborhood groups.

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I would like to particularly thank one group,

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the Nora neighborhood ambassadors.

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They have been answering calls.

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They have been on site during fires.

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They have offered their homes

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and their showers and their

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laundry facilities.

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When these were not available to

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residents at Lakeside Pointe.

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Washington Township schools has

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been a consistent supporter,

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particularly, nor elementary,

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which is across the street,

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and many students attend.

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I also want to extend a heartfelt

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thank you to the health Department

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for offering a full Time Team to

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address issues at Lakeside Point only.

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They have been one of the biggest

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partners and as today shows,

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continue to be.

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We have engaged with the

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Indianapolis Fire Department,

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the Marion County Property Tax Board,

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with city Councilor pots with mayors offices,

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shows today and with state

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senators and representatives.

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Response from leadership has been one

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that we have been truly grateful for.

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And yet a year after issuing an

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executive summary highlighting

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all of the outstanding stories

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and issues that families face,

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we are still scrapping for a solution I

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have been in zoom rooms with leaders,

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35 people from the state, City,

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County, community level and so why?

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Why has it been so hard to achieve

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a solution for Lakeside point?

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Patchwork indie will continue to

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stand alongside those continue

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defining a solution for Lakeside

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Point and other properties like it.

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Thank you. Questions.

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Follow up with.

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Why? Why has it been so hard

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to try to get answers to these?

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Our legal expert.

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My name is Matt Griffin.

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I'm the deputy corporation counsel.

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I think first thing we

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want to mention is the.

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There are barriers under state law

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as it's been currently interpreted

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to some of the things that could be

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enforcement avenues for the city.

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At the same time,

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the city and the health department

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have been pursuing the avenues at

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our disposal and that includes

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all the violations and ordinance

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violation actions by the Health

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department that Mr Babcock mentioned.

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That is, demolition orders for two

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derelict buildings on the property that

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the city has pursued numerous vacant

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board orders that the city is pursued.

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A zoning violation action that the

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city is pursued as well as other

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fire department and IPD responses.

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So I think we have been.

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Using the tools at our disposal,

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what we're talking about today is

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bringing an additional tool to bear.

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And that additional tool would be

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what and how is this threat of

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lawsuit different or supersedes

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all the other accumulated court

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actions that have already been filed?

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Why would this succeed?

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So I I don't know that it's supersedes at

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all the work that has been done before.

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It is another tool in the toolbox

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where we want to push the envelope

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the the two words that stuck out

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in the mayor's remarks for me

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were creativity and clarification.

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We've not filed jointly with the

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Marion County Public Health Department

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of Public Nuisance case before,

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so that's pushing the envelope

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on the interpretation of the

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public nuisance statute.

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I'll go back to your first question though

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if I can just say why is it taking so long.

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We have a negligent property owner

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that's not doing anything in response

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to years of suits from the Marion County

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Public Health Department and most

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recently from the City of Indianapolis.

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Not to mention the Attorney General's office.

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They're not abiding by their

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responsibility as a property owner.

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That's why residents are living in

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conditions that are uninhabitable.

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We are looking at three things that

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that stand out now that that sort

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of push the the creativity approach.

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One I mentioned filing jointly with the

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Marion County Public Health Department.

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Secondly,

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there is real interest at the General

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Assembly on this issue of property

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conditions of landlord tenant relationships.

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I think from both sides of the

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aisle and so our ability to.

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To file under the public nuisance

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statute and use this opportunity

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as a test case to shine a light

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on what might be discrepancies or

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unclarity within state law,

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I think helps us in the short

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term with the living conditions,

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lakeside point and then in the long term,

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with our ability to hold bad actors

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accountable all over Marion County.

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When your guy goes out there at

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4:30 PM on January 31st, find out.

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Then at this point, if nothing

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has changed in terms of

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condition or ownership of the property,

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then the lawsuit gets filed in February 1st.

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Can we get your name Sir? Sorry

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yeah. I'm Jeff Bennett. I'm deputy,

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bear of community development. Thank you.

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A quick question, so I think

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we all got kind of summary,

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but do you explain what specific

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verification you're hoping to get

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in terms of state law?

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We can we

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can get together.

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I don't know if we both,

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so there's the current state law.

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There's a statute was passed in 2016

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that took effect in 2017 at sea 558 that,

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at least under some interpretations,

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handicaps the ability of a city

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to prove that a nuisance exists

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through calls for emergency services.

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So a police, fire EMS and then to

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recover damages based on those

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same calls for emergency services

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so it it doesn't remove the city.

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Ability to use the nuisance statute,

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but it diminishes its effectiveness,

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at least under some court

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interpretations of that law.

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What is really the difference

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between as Matt said,

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a court's interpretation of that statute,

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and what we believe was the

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legislative intent which was not

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to limit the city's ability to use

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that statute to go after bad actors.

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Do you see this

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lawsuit as a potential test

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of Court's interpretation

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of SC 558? And do you think that

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will overturn the 2018 decision?

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The 2018 decision that that you mentioned.

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Has a number of different aspects.

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It's not just concerned with ACA 558

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I I think we do view it as a test.

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I think that legal question is not

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settled and we know under the existing

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law and the carve out in the law that

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preserves our ability to do this,

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that we do have this authority.

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So I I think it is important that

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that we seek clarification both

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the General Assembly level but

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also from the Court system.

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Is there anything you can do between

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now and January 31st for the

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folks living in these substandard

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conditions to accelerate get them out?

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Just what can you do for some of the

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folks that are living in there now?

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So residents are eligible for

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rental assistance through the through.

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The indie rent program that the

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mayor mentioned at the outset.

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In some cases, residents have used

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rental assistance to relocate.

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If a if a landlord chooses

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not to accept those funds,

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or a landlord is not responsive,

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then those funds are portable and

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I do believe that the that the the

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other government officials such as

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the Washington Township Trustees

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Office has been working on a.

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Case by case basis with residents

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who who have had basic needs,

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including the need to relocate

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out of property.
